Late last year, I asked Amy Zipkin, a fellow journalist, to share her family’s story of unemployment and career exploration. Here’s an update on how things are going.
By Amy Zipkin
When Eve invited me to blog about my family’s career journey in a time of transition last November, my daughter, a college sophomore was considering majors and taking baby steps in career planning. Her father, a longtime sales engineer was five months into a layoff. A lot has happened since.
The newly declared history major jumped right in to courses that interested her. Bypassing a required course she still has to take, she enrolled in Movies and America—The Past Lives Forever and American Popular Culture. That final paper, she told us, analyzed how television shaped the rock and roll music and culture and examined American Bandstand.
I wasn’t surprised by the choices. A good student in high school, sometimes it seemed nothing stood in the way of reading Entertainment Weekly and watching television. More than once I said, “No one ever got into college watching Gilmore Girls.”
Still, the television and pop culture diet may turn out to be a career starter. This summer she returns for the second time to a two day a week unpaid internship in the curatorial department of the Paley Center for Media in New York City. And she’ll return for another summer to the part time job she began as a high school junior at the local branch of a national book store chain.
Her longevity at the book store may have inoculated her against a summer of unemployment according to Andrew Sum, Director for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston. “Grown-ups” he said, “have displaced kids in mall jobs and fast food jobs that would have once gone to teenagers.” In what he calls nothing short of an economic depression for teenagers, I asked my daughter to reflect on her gigs. She wrote in an e-mail, “I started out in both places doing smaller tasks, like the inventory in the bookstore and organizing library databases at the museum. Sometimes I think there is an inclination not to take these jobs as seriously because they seem menial, but I try to do them well and without complaint.”
Eve’s written about the importance of working as a teen and my daughter took her advice. When she was 17, after being at the store six months and promoted to a children’s bookseller after three, she had a career setback. She didn’t show up for work for several weeks. (She needed to file working papers, but didn’t turn them in promptly.) She was reassigned to her inventory position, although she kept the same salary. She writes, “I remember we talked about it and you explained to me that it was a way to show them I was reliable.” Two month later she was back in sales.
She now feels that supervisors who see she does small things well are more comfortable giving her more responsibility. “I try to be an employee who my supervisors can rely on,” she writes.
My daughter’s had advantages by having resources available, but I wonder whether her father’s unemployment is coloring her decisions.
He’s been out of work ten months and a new survey issued by The John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University says he’s not alone. No End in Sight, The Agony of Long Term Unemployment charted what happened to those unemployed in August 2009 nine months later. More than 70% of those in my spouse’s age group, 55 and older, were still unemployed. Many had stopped looking. Only 12% of workers his age were newly employed, many having taken pay cuts.
A Challenger, Gray and Christmas study showed the average length of unemployment for a worker over 55 in March was 35 weeks. Beyond that now, my spouse says he’s “cheerful and optimistic.” But is a positive attitude getting in the way of being realistic?
After one set of interviews that went well (he had been referred by a former colleague) two neophyte employees were hired at the combined salary of a more seasoned employee. At another company, after three interviews, the company halted its hiring process for six months.
Recently he’s ramped up his efforts, joining a jobs group at our house of worship, streamlining his resume and attending a trade show in cloud computing, a hot area in IT right now. Hiring a career coach is still on the back burner.
In a recent post Eve gave advice about networking. And the Rutgers study gave high marks to learning about job openings through word of mouth and from family and friends.
Still, my spouse says he sees managers showing preferences for job candidates who are employed by a company’s competitor. John Challenger, the CEO of Challenger Gray, the outplacement firm agrees. “Anything in a person’s experience that aligns with a prospective employer, gives someone an edge,” he said.
The search continues. Will it end in a survivor job as it did once before after the dot.com crash? Sometimes, you just need to get back to work, Challenger said.
Amy Zipkin is a freelance journalist who reports on emerging business and career trends and the people who create them. She regularly contributes to the popular The New York Times profile, “The Boss.” Her feature stories have appeared in The New York Times, The International Herald Tribune, special supplements to The Wall Street Journal and the papers of the Tribune Media Company. She blogs at AmyZipkin.com.

May 17th, 2010 at 9:20 am
The thing about hiring from your competitors is really on point. Looking for a new job that keeps you in your career path is tough if you are trying to switch between technologies. Does anyone have any thoughts about the short term advantage, if any, of taking classes to bump up your skills?
May 17th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
There’s been a lot written on the topic of going back to school to help boost your skills and resume. Some universities and community colleges are seeing spikes with applications because so many people are trying to beef up their skills or reinvent their careers. The New York Times did a great piece recently about how some for profit schools are signing students up but in the end students don’t get the added career boost they were seeking (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/business/14schools.html) And I did a column on the pros and cons of going back to school to get an MBA.(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23468789/)
So, the answer to your question is not easy. You have to figure out what you want to do and how additional education will hope your particular career aspirations. It’s a good idea to look at people doing the job you want to have did as far as their education. You can easily figure out if they a have an MBA, or a certain type of certification by looking their profile up on LinkedIn, for example. You can also ask someone in your desired field to have a cup of coffee with you so you can pick their brain.
And I’d make sure to spend some serious time with admissions folks at reputable school. They may be able to help you hone what type of education you really need. Your local department of labor may also have tons of resources available to figure out education and skill needs for the future in your area.
I hope this helps.
May 17th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I have been called out of the blue on three separate occasions during my now 15 months of unemplyment and phone interviewed. Each time the prospective employer set up a office interview and each time the prospective employer called me back and cancelled the out-of-town interview. I can assure you that the people interviewing me have ten years or more less experience at their jobs than I do. Older, more experienced workers are a direct threat to less experienced ones. I am now interested more that ever in changing career fields. Experienced and well educated workers did not suddenly forget everything they’ve learned over the years. We’re just plain more of a challenge. Think about it, who wants to manage someone who knows much more about the business than they do!
May 17th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Re: Tweet: “does anyone want to hire someone smarter than them?”
I’d like to say, oh well that explains why no one would hire me when i was looking for work
Happily enjoying my alternate option, being in retirement since my mid 20s
May 17th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Hi Eve,
Here is an idea that was passed along to us at military school. Like many other educators, our instructors asked us what we wanted to be when we got older or what kind of vocation we planned on pursuing. Now, the instructor was quick to say to our eager young minds, “Great, So you want to be a lawyer or an accountant or a machinist. But how are you gonna achieve that goal? What path are you going to take to become an accountant? In other words, how will you accomplish your goal? What’s your plan?” When asked this very next question, there were practically no hands raised to offer up some brilliant plan or idea of how to actually get the job we thought would bring fame and fortune. With that silence in the room, here is what the professor said:
“I want each of you to take one copy of (1) the Baron newspaper, (2) the Wall Street Journal, and (3) the Journal of American Medical Association magazine. You will notice that the Baron is a rather obscure newspaper compared to the Wall Street Journal but the WSJ is known for its distribution throughout the world. The JAMA magazine is obviously geared towards the medical profession but there is something in there worth considering. This will also be a lesson on advertising and marketing, both for the company and yourself. Here is the assignment…
Thumb through all the pages of each periodical. In between articles look for ads for any and all professions. Ask yourself, ‘Why would that particular ad be situated right there?’ More importantly, pay particular attention to the ‘jobs section’ and find the vocation you think you want to pursue. Now read the ad. In the ad you will find that exact educational and experience path required to be, say, a Chief Financial Officer, in 15 years. It will probably say that you must have this type of degree with this kind of experience preferably with a particular company or industry. Reading the jobs section and understanding the “career path” to becoming a neurosurgeon is laid out for you in black and white. It will tell you what they want – YOUR career path to obtaining the job you think you want!
Compare the periodicals to each other where there is overlap in types of jobs. Are the requirements for a patent lawyer the same in the Baron as opposed to the JAMA? Remember, medical companies need patent attorneys as well. Once you do this for a few months (comparing periodicals, educational and experience requirements for a particular job/vocation), ask yourself, ‘Do I want to do this? Is this the job that really appeals to me? Am I willing to sacrifice my wants and desires to satisfy the requirements listed under “Senior Radiologist Wanted”? The mistake most junior and senior college students make is not completing their education but completing an education that will not help them land the job they want in the distant future. Don’t make that mistake. If you change your mind about being a chemical engineer and would rather be high school principal, find out how to become a high school chemistry teacher and then gain the experience (professionally and educationally) to ensure you have the credentials and foundation to be a high school principal. Any questions? I thought not. Now get your asses to reading and don’t tell me that you want my job – I’m not dead yet and I’m not quitting anytime soon! Hehehe”
The professor said this was the actual assignment for not only that particular day and but for the rest of our lives. It works. Go to a newspaper or some company webpage and look for your own job description. How well does it fit? Is it on target? Try it, you’ll see. Besides, as my mom used to say, “You’ll never live long enough to make all the mistakes in the world; you may as well learn from someone else.” In other words, if someone has already laid out the job requirements for a particular position via a periodical, then read it and either follow it or find some other career worth your while.
Just my $0.02.
May 17th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Great post. I think that children are definitely influenced by their parents when it comes time to begin building their careers. One can only hope that this recession has had some kind of positive influence on young adults, and will help them make wiser financial and job choices, keeping the events of the past in the back of their minds. As someone who is still working towards my degree, I think that what my parents have taught me about knowing my own strenghts, and not living beyond my means will help inform my choices once I enter the workforce.
May 17th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Thanks Bob, Mark, David, Rob and Bonnie for your comments and Eve for the thorough answer to Bob.
Bob, Eve raises a number of valid points, especially researching the kinds of experience and credentials employees who have a position you would like have.
While your observations about hiring someone smarter ring true, Mark, there is also the issue of whether employers are willing to pay more for experienced talent. And in some instances, in this economy, it appears they are not.
David, too, raises an interesting point. Even an identical job in a different industry or corporate culture will be a completelu different job. And the individual who wants to switch careers will always have to show some ingenuity.
And Bonnie, yes, children are definitely influenced by their parents, but they are their own individuals. And I think a lot of career heartache might be minimized if kids followed their own inclinations, rather than what sounded impressive at the moment, or good in cocktail party conversation.